Make room for Mars Jackson
In Nelson George’s seminal book The Death of Rhythm & Blues he chronicles the rise and fall of popular Black music from the early to mid 1900s. George’s thesis proposes that the (cultural) “death” of Rhythm & Blues mirrors the death of independent record labels. Many of which folded like dominoes when Black music executives abandoned their boutique labels for higher paying jobs at larger record companies with deeper pockets and national distribution. George also compares this death of cultural autonomy to the demise of the Negro League, after Black players like Jackie Robinson started to integrate Major League Baseball in the 1940s. Suggesting that the pursuit of upward mobility led to a loss of cultural autonomy and ownership in exchange for bigger pay days, corner offices, and a more palatable sound that would escape the limitations of “race” music, “crossover,” and compete on mainstream airwaves.
The death was both cultural and fiscal, because it led to a loss of power. But the business of the music industry is evolving, and the need to “crossover” is dying just as fast as the soulful music George grieves in his book, because present-day musicians of the information age are leveraging new forms of media to reclaim their creative and cultural autonomy. This new sonic landscape continues to give birth to a new class of promising independent artists like Pittsburgh’s Mars Jackson (MJ) - whose soulful lyricism gripped me from first listen. I got a chance to interview Jackson about the creative process behind his music. In our interview we discuss the necessity of peace of mind, the freedom to give yourself grace to move on from a project that isn’t working, and the role faith plays in his creative journey.
TS How would you describe your creative discipline?
MJ My creative discipline is rooted in the art of storytelling through music. As an independent hip hop artist, I take pride in completing a project from idea to creation, which involves writing, creative direction, and delivering a message that resonates with listeners. It’s about staying committed to my craft while evolving my sound and artistry through different lenses of art, music, and film, while staying true to my essence.
TS What determines your interest as a hip hop artist?
MJ My interest is driven by how something resonates with my personal experiences and the experiences of those around me. I’m interested in projects that evoke a deep emotional response, or tell a story that hasn’t been heard yet in a unique way, especially when it reflects black culture, my own experience of where I’m from, or the journeys of people who’ve inspired me.
TS What are three things you cannot create without? And why?
MJ The first thing would be hot tea. I love my tea. So when I’m preparing to record, or create, hot ginger tea or green tea calms my nerves. The second thing I can't create without is peace of mind. I know when I am flustered or have a mental block, that can cause my focus to be everywhere instead of in the moment of what I’m creating. Having peace of mind can go a long way in my creative process, especially when I’m songwriting. Lastly, I can’t create without being in a cozy space. I’m used to a certain atmosphere when I create. So whether it’s at the studio with good friends and my producer Nice Rec, at home, or in a home-studio, if the vibes aren’t cozy it’s hard for me to create.
“Once the concept is clear, I lock in.”
TS Walk me through your creative process? How do you create? Can you identify a routine?
MJ My process always starts with a feeling or a moment I want to capture. I listen to different beats, listen to songs, or watch films that inspire me; and when one speaks to me, I dive in. Lyrics come next—sometimes it’s fast, other times it’s a drawn-out reflection. I like to paint pictures with my words so it tends to come in waves. There’s no strict routine, but I do give myself space to vibe with beats and let the words flow naturally. Once the concept is clear, I lock in.
TS Where does your inspiration come from?
MJ My inspiration comes from the world around me—my city, my experiences, and the people I’ve met along the way. Life itself, and the ups and downs that come with it, also fuel my music and art.
TS For whom do you create?
MJ I create for myself. I create for those inner city kids who know they are destined for greater things and experiences. I create for anyone who’s ever felt misunderstood or overlooked. I create for those who are searching for something deeper in their creative journey. I want to connect with people who relate to my experiences, especially those in Pittsburgh and beyond.
“There is nothing wrong with moving on. There's art in that as well.”
TS When do you know it’s time to abandon a project?
MJ I know it’s time to abandon a project when it no longer aligns with my vision, or when it feels forced. If the emotion isn’t there, or if it doesn’t move me like it did at the start, it’s time to step away. Sometimes you can come back to it and sometimes you can’t. There is nothing wrong with moving on. There's art in that as well.
TS Have you ever returned to an abandoned project? If so, why?
MJ Of course. I have returned to projects that I initially stepped away from. Sometimes, I need a fresh perspective, or more life experience before I can finish what I started. The break can often lead to a better, more complete vision.
TS At what stage in your creative process do you invite collaborators?
MJ I bring collaborators in during the early stages if I’m working on a new song or listening to production, but I usually invite more input once I’ve laid down the foundation of the song. That’s when I trust others to help bring it to the next level.
TS How important is it for you to finish a project from start to finish?
MJ It’s very important for me to see a project through. Each project is a representation of who I am at that moment, and completing it brings a sense of accomplishment. There’s no better feeling than sharing a finished song or album rollout with the world.
TS What creative obstacles do you face? Personal or professional.
MJ I face obstacles with self-doubt and wanting everything to be perfect. Professionally, the challenge is navigating the business side of the music industry while working a 9 to 5, especially as an independent artist. But I’ve learned to push through those moments and focus on the art, and focus on what brings me joy. The art is the most important part to me, and that can’t be compromised with anything that doesn’t align.
TS What tips do you have for creatives who may be facing their own creative challenges?
MJ Embrace the process, even during the difficult moments. If you hit a creative block, give yourself time to rest and redirect, no more energy wasted on things you can’t prevent. Once you figure it out, you win. Lastly, surround yourself with people who believe in your vision but aren’t afraid to push you further.
TS I believe that the older we get we become more acutely aware of the energy it takes to fuel our faith. What role does faith play in your creative journey?
MJ Faith most definitely plays a huge role in my creative journey because faith is what got me this far. It’s a belief in something greater than myself—a trust in my purpose and in the process. Whether it’s trusting the timing of a release, or finding the courage to express vulnerability in my music or art, faith guides every step I take. It reminds me that the journey is just as meaningful as the destination.
TS What projects are you currently working on and where can our readers follow and find your work?
MJ Right now, I’m excited about my latest single release, Where I’m From, produced by C.Scott. It’s a personal track that showcases my growth and roots in my city. I’m also excited to be working closely with Wiz Khalifa’s Official DJ Bonics and Pittsburgh producer Nice Rec on a collaboration project in 2025. You can find more updates and follow my journey at www.marsjackson.com or on social media @marsjackson. I’ve got more music and visuals on the way, and I’m looking forward to sharing that with everyone!
TyLie’s song recommendation: The nostalgic beat changes in Mars Jackson’s “Look Up” (feat. Cam Chambers) are reminiscent of the Black art house films that provided a cultural and sonic backdrop for the firefly catching children of the 90s. Play it to set your mood before a date, or to cool down after a nice workout.
Mars Jackson is a beacon of authenticity in Pittsburgh’s music scene, blending the soul of hip-hop with the rich textures of jazz and funk. His music is more than just sound; it’s a narrative that speaks to the essence of city life, encapsulating the highs and lows, the dreams and realities of a generation. As an independent hip-hop artist, Mars channels his deep adoration for the genre into every beat and lyric, creating a unique connection with his audience that transcends the ordinary.
